Why Unemployment A. Sucks B. is worst than ever C. doesn't care about people
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This summer I was in the unfortunate posistion to recieve unemployment. While it was nice to have the money to help with bills it was not till much later the true price I would have to pay for taking this money.
Because our wonderful (irony) goverment made a mistake and now I have to suffer due to their error. Not just me but my whole family will be suffereing from this. Yes and even my brother's family, my sister's family, and my mom and dad.
All these people are going to suffer because the Goverment made a mistake and now they want me to repay them. While I relize that I have no choice but to pay them back I feel like I have been injured in a most serious way. If I did not qualify for the money then why the heck give it to me to begin with? I have been a hard working person and had three jobs at one time untill getting layed off, leaving another job due to family needs and then finally getting layed off at the last job.
So when they told me that I could get $380 a week I thought great, not what I had been making but it will help pay the bills till I can start working again. I went all summer two and a half months with no work. Finally I got to go back to my previous job. But wait this is when things get fu-bared. Because I only worked a part time schedule at first I was still suposed to fill my unemployment. Guess what they recalculated my unemploment and then they said I owed them a vast amount of money for the whole summer. $2,400 dollars!!! yes $2,400 dollars I could not believe it my self so I went down to the unemplomewnt office waited hours to see some one who then told me to call the main office in Indinapolis because they could not help me. What a crock. So I called and was put into the wonderful calling automated system. To my amazment I was hung up on not once not twice but three times befor I could actually talk to a person that ment I spent a total of 4 and 1/2 hours making phone calls only to have them tell me that it would take another week while they reviewed my case..
A week later and guess what, I did not get a phone call, or a letter in the mail. One month later I recieved a letter telling me I had one week to pay back the money in full or be penialized.. Guess what the job I am at doesn't pay that kind of money to simply just pay it back. I drive a school bus for christ sakes. So now I HAVE TO LEAVE MY JOB AND LEAVE MY FAMILY TO TAKE A NEW JOB THAT PUTTES ME OUT ON THE ROAD IN DANGERS UNKNOWN just to pay that MONEY back. I would have never taken this money if I had know all the grief it was going to cause. I would have rather lost my house had the utilities shut off and still be with my family than to go through all this.
For the other part of my family my Brother and his family, my sister and her family, and my mom and dad, I must say I am sorry you will not be seeing me any time soon not for thanksgiving/christmass/easter even. I can see you or even afford to send presents this year. My kids are not going to even get much except for what little I can scrounge up and only if it's needed.
Why would the goverment do this to me and ruin my life in such a way? They don't care how this is affecting me and my family. They get to keep their jobs, and be with their families, and have money to buy presents.
Befor all this started when I had three jobs I was gone a lot but home every night and spent time with my family. I earned a decent pay for a decent days work. It was around $580 wkly. Now I work and can only earn $250 a wk. What has this country turned into? Crap that is what I am thinking, pure crap. Our goverment sucks and doesn't act or even pretend to care about the people it affects.
I hope to make a difference some day, but only after I put this all behind me. I have a long journey to make this money up and it's not possible with my current job so now I have to go find a new job possibly one that will require vast amount of traveling, not what I wanted. But come next election time. I am going to run for office and fire every single one of those bastards at the unemploment office if elected so join me in my cause.
I need political help, manager, ect. I hope to hear from you soon.
I am the average Person and I will fight for all people to have equal and fair rights to be treated as a person.
If the goverment makes a mistake the people should not have to pay. If I make a mistake then I should have to pay.
thank-you for reading this and let every one know beware the unemployment pay because it sucks to have to go through what I am and I don't want any one else to go through it and suffer like I am having too, right now.
OK time to step this up after nearly 3/1/2 years I am getting other together to file a clas action law suit against the goverment and I am looking for any and all person that would like to join me in this. I am needing at least the initial 100 people to join into a signed agreement to file a class action suit and working to hire a law Firm that is capable to handle a class action suit of this possible size.
They are going to want to have at least 100 names and emails to get hings rolling. please join me in standing up for what is right against the truly wrong practices that are being done to all these people in america it does not help it only hurts people but families and our country it is a bad policy and we all need to stand up to them. so please join me in a cause that is worth fighting for. Don't let this broken system continue to hurt others and ruin families and lives.
I am now no longer married and divorced all due to the money issues cause through unemployment payback. They actually wanted me to pay them back the money that I never got and what they actually owed to me. is that not funny or what someone has been robbing the system blind because those that need the money are not getting the help they truly needed and deserved.
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Well I don't know about Ohio but here in indiana you have to make a claim in person the first time then you have a one week waiting period and then they require you to file a claim every week for that weeks pay. Most infor mation can be found on "your sates".gov page. hope that helps even though I was screwed out of my unemployment I did recieve some and then they wanted it all back can't figure out that one at all.
My husband is in construction, and as you all know of the economy...no one can afford new houses much. He works really hard, but it never fails that he would come home and say "I'm laid off hon." He sometimes went back to work a week later..good, but not great since he missed a whole weeks pay. Other times, he'd wait for his employer to call back only to say "doesn't look good..better look for another job, sorry."
My husband was pretty used to filing online here in Washington state. Hard to understand? Heck ya! But he did it thank god, and waited his week. On Friday, he would receive his usual "not gonna pay you the week ending because there is a question" blah blab blah. Filled out the paper work they sent, and sends it back. We'll just have to see what he receives next week. And I don't believe they ever paid back pay from the time he filed before. It was a hassle, and we were broke. One time, they kept sending paper work after paper work to fill out so they could make a decission. And when they finally decided okay, we really need the money....they paid $486.00 a week. It was better than a kick in the pants thats for sure. BUT...about 5 paychecks later, they sent a letter saying they were going to stop payments because they thought my husband said he was expecting a paycheck from his employer when he filled. I don't recall that but it was okay because he had found a new job and was to start that following week. We filled out their "questionaire" in reguards to the mystery check and sent it back.
My husband filed for unemployment...AGAIN last Sunday online. Yet another boss has gone belly-up and he will be looking for another job. AND to add to the stress, the Unemployment Dept. has sent him a bill for $486 saying they "overpaid him"!!!!!!!! Good Grief. I tell ya, its just like they think your robbing from them YOUR money! They send you so much crud to fill out and send back because they know by time they okay your paper work you'll have a job and they won't have to fork over any money! Then, when they do give you a check....they will work really hard to "read between the lines" to question you again and stop payments......and of course.....come after you for these so called "overpayments". They are a pain in the keester they are!
Update You only get 10days to file a Dispute to the claims that they over payed you yet they can file an over payment claim at any time much further past the 10 days that they payed you so how is this fair? It was of coarse my money that they took from my paychecks to put into the fund for my self along with money from my employer so how come they do this? I need to find a lawer to deal with all this and it will actually be worth it since I can use the money from the claim, it's far more than what the lawer will charge and better than being out all the money they want back.
i totally agree it is corrupt, i have been on unemplyment for 8 mths, i just received a letter saturday, for a hearing this tuesday issue is wheather "appeal filed timely", wtf, you only have the most 30 to file an appeal, so why would they conduct a hearing for the company 8 mths later to see if they filed an appeal timely, i have this feeling i am going to get screwed and have to pay shit back, the screwed up part is that the same company that laid me off, just fired my husband, and he filed for unemployment, and has had to appeal it, cause they lied and said he quit, which was bull, so we have been waiting 3 mths for them to give nothing, they say it takes that long to make a decision, he has too had to go over the road, just so we can live
I have to agree with you there it is an unfair system and it is geared forthe employers benifits not the people that it was originally desined to help. For me it is the matter of if I can keep my home or not, actually could end up homeless from this mess that they caused and that is the scarest thing of all.
I tried to go out and get a CDL but have not beenable to pass the test yet so I guess I am not going to be doing that any time soon lke I thought and in the mean time my life has begun to spin into an out of control finacial disaster, so where is my Bail out money going to come from? The US gov seems happy to give tax payers money out these days to any one that asks, and seems to have a good reason why not me?
i agree with all of you, i filed for unemplyment in september for them firing me, my emplyer contested and said they offered me a demotion and i quit., so i got denied, then i filed an appeal waited 6 more weeks for a hearing. the day of the hearing, tried to explain to the judge how they fired me, she didnt want to hear anything about me being fired or quitting, she was only there to hear about a job refusal. So wait 2 weeks to get an answer, receive one, and find that the judge ruled, that i did not refuse an offer of suitable work, but the previous, determination is null and void, and is being sent back to the investigators to determine if i was fired or quit....wtf, so know i have to wait 6 more weeks for an investigator to do his thing, get another determination, and if that is not in my favor, appeal it again. What a way to drag this out, i was terminated for no fault of my own, and though that was what unemplyment was for, i have never had to file for this before, and am very disappointed, by the time, they decide to give me it or not, i will have done lost everything, everything has been getting shut off, taken away, ect, and the job industry sucks right now. i cant even get a job at mcdonalds, cause i am over qualified. but this proves that they are in it to help the employers out, the claimants are the ones that have to suffer. but they did tell me that if once they reach a decision and if its in my favor, then i will recieve a large sum of money at one time, big whoop, that is not helping me at all right now, and everything will be gone by then. I never would have though it would take 5 or more months to make a decision.
Government sucks, I filed for unemployment back in Feb 2008 after back and fourth appeals, because I was fired unfairly, I won, but in the meantime to make some money to pay my bills I went for flight attendant training, but was unable to take the job, because they had me overnighting a lot where I never see my children, so I couldnt accept the job.. So in the meantime I been collecting unemployment, I received a letter stating I wasnt approved since I didnt accept the job as the flight attendant and now they are saying I have to pay back 8000.00 dollars as a non fault.. Now Im jobless with no income what so ever, these pigs dont give a shit if we have money to feed our families or pay our bills and now Im made to pay something back that was their error and I believe Im still entitled to the benefits! Not only did they extend my checks for 13 weeks, they sent me another letter saying I would be receiving another 13 weeks and the sameday I received that ltr I got the one saying I owe 8000.00 that was overpaid to me! Where is Obama now??? Hate this country! Im appealing it and will fill you in how it goes! Dont back down ppl this is your money, you paid into unemployment why should we have to pay it back?
hey chichick72, how did they know that you didnt accept the job might i ask, and how many appeals did you go through, we have been going back and forth with my husbands, like they are looking for reasons not to pay him its almost 6 mts now. had another appeal last week, and now waiting on the decision. how long did it take to get yours through. and if you dont mind me asking what finally made them realize that you deserved it.
Update. Ok I was out of work again for about a month but this time I was not eligiable for unemployment I was about to have all my utilities shut off I was on the verge of having my house forclosed and my van was repossesed.. It was not that I did not want to take care of my financial obligatins it was that I was unable due to my unemployment. I needed a mirrical and it kind of did not come I finally was able to file my wifes taxes early because she has had a job all this time and we recieved back our tax return refund we where able to catch up on our past due bills and get the house payments caught up, not able to get our van back, and I need a car to go find a new job, going to have to be creative since I am out of money once again..
I was hoping that I could find a job writing or working from home but after several tries at home based jobs/businesses I HAVE PRETTY MUCH GIVEN UP!
Currently I am working through a temp agency till I can find better work. it is not much but it is a paycheck bringing in some money. We have cut back on our bills as much as we can and I am even going to food banks to help with groceries, life should not have to be this hard I feel like America is starting to be a third world country. Our standards of living might be only slightly higher than other countries but soon I feel like america will simply fall behind other countries, and start to take a back seat to the global economy. we can no longer keep pace with other countries that can do work cheaper, and provide equally good products. Where the heck has the Labor unions gone too? and how come there is never a union job for me when I am looking to find one?
I believe in the union and the representation for fair wages /benifits. we don't recieve it from our gov, and when was the last time there was a really good strick that made an impact beyond a local region?
I still desire to change the system from the inside but it might simply be easier to take over and start fresh lot less red tape and BS and we could actually get to make changes that would benifit others in real life. that said I am going to walk down to the bus stop and go look for a car or at least a bicycle.
Unemployment definitely sucks! I have had all the same problems and this is the first time i have ever needed unemployment after 15 years. Who are you suppose to complain to senator, governor, I just want to opt out of paying into this bullshit system!
Total bullshit system, first they say ok your approved,then after 2 months pass say wait a minute your empoyer has appealed. Now you lose the appeal and now they ask for all the money back wtf is this happy horse shit might I ask. They should never ask for money back if its there mistake ,if they stop payment ok but this is criminal and the state should be help accountable for there mistakes not the empoyee who needed help in the first place.
I was told to take a day off by my employer and come in and work on my regular scheduled day off. Well my employer called me on the day she told me to take off and said I was no longer needed. She gave me no reason at all... Well anyways, I filed for unemployment. Got it. The unemployment office said that they didn't have any evidence to support their case on my termination. (It was a two and a half month process before I even got my first check!) So. Just today (after a month of receiving benefits) I get an email from the unemployment office saying that my previous employer filed an appeal saying that I "voluntarily quit by failing to appear or call in for work." And that I was "habitually late and failed to appear or call in for work multiple times.' When in fact, yes, a couple times I didn't have access to a phone to call in work to let them know I was gonna be late and I got wrote up both times but my employer told me a couple months later that my write ups elapsed. Meaning they "expired". And on my absences I was excused. Well I called the unemployment office today and they told me I had to write my statement of disagreement to the claim... It pisses me off that I was not given a reason for my dismissal. But now, they give this false reason. On the day I was let go, it was the day my employer told me to take off. I'm worried that they'll take the employer's side because the bitch could make documents up and possibly forge my signature. (Cause most companies are crooked like that anyways.) But in the letter I wrote about how I was discriminated against, because my co-worker was late everyday, but clocked himself in as being on time. And never got a warning or disciplined. Whereas with me, I was getting yelled at, wrote up or given a warning. What sucks is that I have nothing to back me up but my word and the bitch has her title as manager and (false) documents. The thing I'm worried about is if I lose this case, will I have to pay all the benefits I received back or not? Or will they just stop my benefits. It pisses me off that we pay into all this shit and it's a hard and long process to get back what's rightfully ours to only in the end get fucked over...
Get ready cause here comes the bad, and then the bader news.
If you loose yes you will loose a lot. you will loose your unemployment. then to make things worst you will have to pay back the amount in full that you have already recieved. and you will not be eligable to unemploment till it is payed back and you find another job and get fired again or get layed off. So suck in that belt and prepare to go to battle and I wish you the best of luck while you go to that meeting of doom. cause it's not in the Goverments best interest, nor the businesses interest to help you out, you see, the country that we live in is run by corporations and they don't like loosing money, so you are a loss for them and they are going to cut you loose and cut their losses.
I've been collecting for 3 months. I hate it! Yes unemployment sucks. Trying to keep positive by getting out of bed, brushing my teeth and getting dressed everyday when I'm thinking...why bother getting up. 5 years ago I was out of work for 5 months. The difference then..the local job listings showed around 1200 and you got call backs/interviews. Difference now very few jobs/no callbacks. I wonder if I'll be living in a tent with a bunch of strangers in a year. Our country as we knew if is gone. Never thought I'd see these days. Best of luck to all of you.
June 2nd I was laid off of work, worked for 3 years for a tiny company. Husband & wife ran it together. Hated it, so it really was a blessing in disguise, or so I thought. Filed, & was turned down. WTF?? Appealed & had phone interview on 6/22. Won it, all was good! Not so much... Got a letter on 8/12 stating that my former employers appealed it again!! Good God people! So I have to wait until 9/10 for all of this. I am pretty sure that they appealed after the 30 day period, so am hoping that is in my favor!!!
I feel every ones pain here me and my wife both lost our jobs we were making around 60,000 between us now nothing. we lost jobs on july 1st and july 20 it is now sept 12 and we still are filling out paper work and taking phone calls and they are still waiting to make a decision. Two month how THE HELL ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE, THE MONEY REALLY MEANS NOTHING NOW MY BILLS ARE ALL A MONTH PAST DUE AND I AM FLAT BROKE ON THE WAY OUT OF MY PLACE TO MOVE BACK WITH MY PARENTS OR LIVE ON THE STREET. THANKS TO THIS GREAT COUNTRY WE LOVE SO MUCH. I have never seen so much bureaucracy in my life they give me seven different numbers to deal with one claim and the right had don't even know what the left is doing. they sent me the same F-ing paper work three times.
I am so fed up i am sure i found this site like others did typing in "unemployment sucks". I live in Michigan and I left one job to take a better position at a differnt place, unexpectedly they closed for the winter. I tried very hard to find a job. It was Nov 2008 I was laid of I found a new job Feb 2009. In that time I collected $4700.00 then like some of you they told me that my employers both filled complaints and I had to go to court. which my last court date was just Aug. 31st 2009...this shit takes forever and I was told I had to prove the money that I made from the job I got laid off from after my first court date, which I won I just had to prove the money I made...so I filled a claim to get the information from him. He didnt respond for over a month to the investigator so thats when I had to go to my second court case, which I lost because I volunteered to leave one job for another (even though I put my two weeks in and did everything the right and professional way). and so finally a week ago I recieved the info I needed to prove the money I made, I was so happy because they told me i just had to prove I made $3660.00 from Aug 23, 2008 till Nov 31, 2008.....and I had made $3820.00 so just over what they said. So today I called to make sure everything was all good and let me tell you I cried and cried when they told me the judge from the second case changed the dates that I had to make the amount of money in to Sept 20, 2008 to Nov 31, 2008 so I am now short
$1035.00 so I have to pay the state of michigan back $4700.00, they are sending me a waiver form (which is my last hope) has anyone ever done this before? and did it work for you?
There really needs to be laws in place that stops the States unemployment dept. from screwing you over when its there mistake. So many times they pass unemployment and many times they should of never agreed to pay it. So whos fault is it really ? theres . All money you recive before a appeals court date should remain yours. Its not your fault the system is broke and failing,you did what you were supposed to when filing. I was in the same boat drawled unemployment for over a month ,then got a letter saying employer was appealing ,talk about your bullshirt systems. I was looking at 2,000 repayment. I didnt put up with there crap ,I got a free attorny and stuck it to them and won the appeal. Most employers bank you wont do that,make sure you try to get a free attorny dont let the system or the crooked employers screw you. Also write your congressman on new laws to be put in place to stop there overpayment games. good luck all its a jungle out there
Well, basically I was fired because I missed work due to my car blowing a head gasket on the way to work. Called so many people to take me to work no one available. waited in the heat for a very long time. Called in twice to let them know.I was fired for it. I filed for unemployement and told them exactly that. They approved me. I though GREAT! I cant find a job so this will help me eat adn pay bills, 180 dollars a week.
I get a letter in the mail 5 months later saying my employer is appealing. During the hearing the judge scolds me for stating I object! when manager saying hearsay things(which i can do during a hearing on those grounds) expects me to have kept detailed records of everything my manager said and did(who does that???), and calls out my manager on a lie (doesnt repremand her for purgury) and rules in their favor that I quit without good cause, even though I was fired..
I now apparently have to pay back 4000~ dollars back to New Mexico even though they approved me for it in the first place. Sometimes I wonder if this is designed to back up the employer not the workers(neh that is what they are doing..)
Im 21, trying to go to school full time for Nursing, and I cant find a job. NOW I HAVE TO PAY 4000 BACK(THAT I DONT HAVE!) THAT THEY DECIDED THEY WOULD PAY ME IN THE FIRST PLACE, EVEN THOUGH THE REASON IM ON UNEMPLOYMENT IS BECASUE I CANT FIND A JOB TO GET MONEY.Who does that to poor people?
Maybe I can make $2 payments a month, cause that's what I MAY be able to afford IF I WANT TO EAT STILL.Gerk-offs.My friend is in the same boat with same employer, he doesnt have money to pay it back either. Do they really expect to be payed back in a timely fashion or even at all?(Our government must be daft.)
I also was awarded money and then lost the appeal? I got a letter stating I owe over 5000 back. I wrote a letter saying I could make payments of 150 a month because I do not want to appeal because it did not get me anywhere the first time. Now they are sending me a letter saying they are going to give me another appeal date. I didnt ask for one. I just want to make monthly payments. Did anyone get any answers from unemployment when you couldnt pay the full amount?
I was bullied into quiting in New Mexico. I went from making $2000 a month to $400 a month due to the economy. I filed for partial benefits, because I wanted to keep my job until things picked up. At that time my former boss started writing me up. After 5 years he had no problems giving me $4 in raises and $300 bonuses each year. after 2 weeks of my former boss bullying me and treating me like crap I resigned for workplace harassment. He appealed the partial, I won then he appealed the "separation with good cause" because I quit, and I lost. Now I have to pay back $4000!! I still cant find work, am going to school for paramedic and will try to file bankruptcy or hardship. WHAT A JOKE UI BENEFITS ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was harassed at work, had to have ameeting with my bosses boss I did threaten to quit but then refused to sign the paper then they asked for my badge so they fired me because I was upset about the harrasment I was recieving, was a Union job and the union was actually a major contributor to the harrasment.
wELL I WAS ON TIER II AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT STOPS NO WARNING I CALLED WAS TOLD TO FILE A NEW CLAIM THEY WANT TO SEE IF I WAS WORKING OR NOT GO FIGURE. so then i'm told 3 diff stories by the idiots at workforce connections in new mexico . i stated i should be back to tier ii and backdated pay for week skip now they say it will take 3 4 weeks i have my rent to pay and this is right around christmas. They are liars and idiot lowlifes at the call centers. Love waiting for hours every time i call and had to buy a new phone battery so i don't drop call on my home phone. Cant wait till they loose their jobs.
i live in florida and i have been fighting unemployment now for over a year and now the say its gonna take three more months to give me a answer becuz my employer said i quit witch i didnt and i do have a witness that my supervisor told her they had to let me go so i was laid off and unemployment trying to say that its my fault cuz they didnt send me my appeal paper work for 3 of my 4 appeals and now they r screwing me over by not sending me my paper work and i worked at rinker/cemex before they bought them out i first claimed my weeks on 11/24/2008 and now its 1/15/2010 and i have received nothin yet but a headache but if i do get the money that i am owed we will see what i get but what it adds up to is around $15,064
my girlfriend and I worked at the same job. We both got layed off on the same day. She got a part time job at the same place only bringing home between 0 and 120 a week. I applied directly online never went to the office. They said i got a payment on the 24th which I havnt seen yet. (its now the 28th.) this is only 166 dollars... i was making 276 a week which is very little as it is... My girlfriend is receiving nothing from them, they claim she makes too much o_O. Am i going to have to pay what i get back after I find a job? Its 110 dollars less than what i was making a week, and i was barely making it with my job.
This is a little different story. I'm just starting to file for partial unemployment, since my hours have been reduced.
I start to fill in the questions, and stopped at the one that said "Were you absent from work when work was available?" Their FAQ said "If you were scheduled to work, but did not report to work, you were absent from work. The total dollar amount for the gross wages you could have earned (potential earnings) must be reported."
The one day I was suppose to work, was the day of the big snow storm at the beginning of Feb up here in PA. A state of emergency was declared, police were out ticketing anyone on the road, a few roads were closed. I was practically snowed in.
I called my employer who said if you can't make it, then you can't. Try to come in if things get better later on. It got worse that night. The roads were clear enough I could go to work the next day.
I called the unemployment office, and they stated if you didn't go to work, you still have to report it as if you did. I'm like what the heck. This is totally unfair. The rep said the reason doesn't matter. If you were scheduled and didn't work, you have to report as if you did work. Yes you could have been in a car accident and in the ER in ICU, and you still have to report as if you had gone to work. There are no exceptions.
I asked to talk to a supervisor, and he blatantly said it was against the rules there for him to put one on. He would have a supervisor call me back. Two hours later still no call back.
To me because I didn't work that day, it would have allowed me to collect full unemployment. The next week I accepted to fill in a shift. Because I accepted the shift, I'll barely be collecting any unemployment. I might as well not collect any unemployment at all.
It was tempting just to mark no even though I was scheduled. It would have been immoral, the Bible tells us we are to work with in the law of the land. It is not worth having to pay back that amount later on, if they would have caught on. I could have all my unemployment taken away.
Currently, I'm not sure if the two days I'm currently working are going to be around much longer. I might be filing for full unemployment soon. In my case, I will still be working for the security company I'm with. I'll just be on the waiting bench to be called in if someone calls in sick, or if another opening appears.
I tried to apply with two other companies so far. Both times I had two interviews, and both times I haven't heard anything back. Jobs are hard to find.
I have a way that every one can reduce their expenses and or join my affilate program and start making your own money today!
I know someone that is currently dealing with the Unemployment Department He applied for unemployment late last fall and was given weekly checks for six weeks. Then for some reason his benefits were suddenly denied and he is required to pay back all the money that was given to him immediately. I think the Dept of Unemployment needs to be careful before sending out weekly checks to unemployed people and then forcing them to give all the money back. They should decide YES or NO and in the beginning of the application process. You either qualify for it or you don't. If you don't qualify for it I guess our government allows you to go on welfare. Most of these people would not be applying for unemployment unless they really needed the help. So where are these poor people going to suddenly come up with the thousands of dollars to pay back the unemployment department if they are barely making enough money to survive. Why did they give him the money at all if they were just going to ask for it back. I thought he earned the benefits through his previous job, like most people do. That process has got to be changed soon or this may turn into a nasty situation. I was unemployed for a few months and had no problems but during my unemployment I was required to go to the local Work Source Office to meetings and search for jobs. While I was there I talked to a lot of people that were abusing the system, buying drugs and alcohol with their unemployment benefits and not looking for jobs. The people working at the Unemployment Offices are either a bunch of idiots or just not smart enough to realize what is really happening out there in the real world. If they continue to give money to people truly committing fraud and collecting weekly benefits with no intentions of seeking work the situation is going to get worse. These freaks never get caught and never have to pay back a dime of their benefits. Why is it that the honest hard working people are often forced to pay back their benefits? This bothers me and makes me not trust our government anymore. Who is really in charge in this country? Also why are there so many freaking people on welfare, getting free medical benefits and monthly checks? They should be forced to wake up, smell the coffee and get off of their fat lazy asses and start working. They seem to be living on easy street and getting a free ride while the rest of us have to work for a living. Life is just not fair. I wish we could all do something about this mess, but it seems to be so out of control that people are just giving up. Somebody get out there and do something!
I have been through the worst situation with everything you have mentioned and even worse. I was fired from my job due to an altercation with a horrible customer. I worked for National Car Rental/Alamo Renta-a-Car in Arizona where I either worked indepentdently at an off-site location or with one other person. This happened to be a Sunday, so I was alone. The establishment I worked at was an FBO at a small city airport, and most of the other businesses in the FBO were closed for the day or had already gone. Long story short, no witnesses for the dispute.
Anyway, after the altercation I was extremely upset. I don't do well with things like this, nor have I ever had something like this happen with a customer. After the customer finally left, I tried to reach several managers at the base location in Phoenix, but to no avail. I then called my manager and left a message stating, " I probably wouldn't be there after today because I couldn't take it anymore, and that I was sorry for the short notice......blah blah blah." BUT, and this is a big BUT, the next day another co-worker had called me to find out what had happened on Sunday (previous day) because a customer had come in stating she tried to return a car, but no one was there (4:35pm), when the hours stated until 5:00pm. I explained how upset I was and that I did leave early. She said, and I quote "oh honey, you had better call David" (my manager). Even though I had already done that the day before, I called again. He said, "okay now what happened?" I told him again, but much calmer, and also said I didn't want to lose my job. I needed it and was sorry for saying I wanted to quit. I did ask if I was fired anyway, and he said he didn't know he would have to look into it and do an investigation. The following day he called me back and said they had to let me go. He set up a meeting to sign papers, return my badge and I thought to get a final paycheck. Well here is where this UNEMPlOYMENT CASE takes affect. When I met with my former boss, he opened up a file and inside was a letter written by him for me that I had to resign without notice and was sorry. He gave me a choice, to walk away without signing the letter and I wouldn't receive a recommendation in good faith, or sign it and I would. Well, like and idiot I signed it, but felt like it was the right thing to do so that I may obtain another job without them knowing I was fired. What would you have done? Regardless, I was really fired and didn't end up quitting. I am still umeployed. Which is why I did end up filing unemployment because after months of searching for a job I can't find one that is worth working for. In other words to make ends meet and not end up on the street.
My initial claim to unemployment required an appeal because I am also a student at the University of Phoenix and the judge misunderstood online full time student status as one who actually went to school full time. That was okay, I got the unemployment. I received 263.00 per week of back pay from when I initially filed in May through July 15, 2009. This back pay was how long I waited without an income due to the appeal - a total of 1,900.00 appx. In December - still receiving unemployment (which I have paid into from my past job) I get a notice that my employer is appealing my unemployment saying I quit. Long story short again, after a long appeal over the phone, I lost because my employer saved my phone message to him. That son of a bitch cohersed me into quitting after everything and then lied to a judge about how everything happened. They knew all along that they would get me if I did this, but the message, even though he knew I was upset and didn't want to quit and accepted that I didn't want to quit; the letter that he wrote and basically cohersed me into signing, and lying to a judge in a court hearing over the phone. I now have to repay over 8,000.00 in unemployment wages. I have appealed the case again, and this time I will use an attorney if I have to. National Car and Alamo have since then been bought out by Enterprise Rent a Car, a billion dollar company. I find it amusing that they would go to these extremities to have the little person, who worked faithfully for them for over two and half years, going above and beyond in work ethics and standards, pay them back "chump change" in their pockets. To me this is extreme. I can't even pay my bill, and my family is also suffering because they have had to help me out financially, which is humiliating and wrong. If I knew how to make a difference and where to start I would, but it wouldn't be to just expose unemployment for making me put my money (as if it were a temporary loan) back in the till for others, but also to expose a lying team of management and human resources team of a billion dollar company! How do you expose people like this? Anyone?
I live in Elkhart. You all might have heard of it, Pres. Obama has visited here 3 times now, I think. It's been called the "RV Capitol of the World", so yeah, my employment situation is... non-existent. What I don't get is why these companies bother to fight our benefits tooth and nail when it's already paid into the system... I mean, if you are able to receive benefits, it's because it's already in there. So why fight it? It's not like anything extra comes out of THEIR pockets to pay your benefits (that you and the employer had already paid in while you were employed). I hate this system, I hate our government. Our government hasn't been "for the people" for some time now. We need a change. We need to fire these incompetent pigs and get someone in there that's not corrupt. In my area, we've even had employers really low-balling wages because they know there is 200+ people waiting to get in the door for each 1 job that opens up. I worked at one place that I put in 41 hours in 3 days. My first day I started at 5am and didn't leave until 7:30pm. I made a grand total of $10.41 an hour there (in a factory mind you, a place that should easily make ~$20/hr) and if I stopped for 20 seconds to take a small rest I was yelled at. This economy has let this place turn into a legal sweat shop! They have less than 100 people in this plant and go through over 25 people a week. People with jobs like to criticize us without and look down on us, but what goes around comes around. I wonder if they will be so haughty and high minded when their day comes and they need to step into the unemployment office and ask of the state to survive. Then you have the senators throwing a temper tantrum and causing a lapse in benefits. Like I said, this government is no longer for the people anymore. They don't care about us despite us paying their salaries when we did have good jobs.
Just got the worst news today...after a long one year fight with unemployement I now have to pay all of my $5,148.00 back! I fought long & hard against a company which I have no problem mentioning...Coddington Adjustments in New Jersey! This man harrassed me, be-littled me so finally I quit! Unemployement granted me checks & the Coddingtons fought back. Now I have to pay everything back! I hate this government I hate New Jersey & I hate all the corrupt people that work for unemployement!
You may have been a victim of unemployment fraud? I don't know if you heard of web phishing? Well it is when someone breaks into your case from within the government unemployment agency, or perhaps from an outside source, and puts a scam on you! You may want to consider looking into this? Call the FBI if you could not get any answers.
Good Luck, Gennaro
PS Deskjockeywriter, Check out the Department of Labor online. I know on the New York State Labor, Unemployment section where you put your social security numbers in, above is information about PHISHING what I was writing you about. I suggest you promptly pursue this quickly!
Sorry this had happened, and hope you clear this up for your own sake?
Much obliged, Gennaro
Start looking for a job! I quit my job to move south, so I don't qualify for unemployment. However, I have some savings to last me while I get a new postions.
I put together a website to help me and I encourage anyone out there to check it out. Its a link directory to various company careers and jobs section landing pages. To help expedite your search!
I can't even get ahold of anyone on the damn phone, there's no physical address for me to go to in town and I can't file for EUC online. I call all day long, left on infinate hold, get hung up on constantly. ALways transferred to the wrong department. Call back and the phone says I have a wait time of 1,053 minutes. That's over 17 hour hold time and this is 2 hours before they close. This is bullshit, bill collectors will not wait for the government to get this done for me. I am going to have to commit crime in order to pay my rent and utilities. I don't want to be a criminal, the government is forcing it upon me. What do you do when you can't pay your bills, you're about to get kicked out and your utilities are all shut off, meanwhile the government sits on their ass with your benefits, and in the long run will probably tell you to pay them back. At least if I get caught, I'll have free room, board and food paid for by the state.
I understand what your talking about I just want you to know that there are others out there that have it worst off then you and they could not get help, don't think your any different or better than any one else here in this country. all the gov in our country is interested in these days is to collect money not distribute it. I only with the elections could be here in time maybe you should run for political office it's a good paying office if your a crook.
From the desk of the deskjobjocky.
i agree ther always dickin ppl around my yr is up started a claim now there gonna call my old job ask for my job bck are u kiddin me i have papers from hr i lost my insurance wtf is rite fight the fight ppl good luck too all stand up for thself good bless
i've been on unemployment since july.got a letter from frankfort,ky yesterday.called them.they wanted to know why i was still working for the company that i was seperated from.i said, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALIKING ABOUT.she (the state worker said they want to know when you are coming back).i told her i have a letter of seperation.she said we need everything including doctors statments saying you are fit to work.i faxed everthing.got a call from her" we are taking you off your benfits you will get a letter of appel in a few days.i to was granted benefits, because i was hurt on the job they paid no w/comp they came up with a lame doctor to say that i was a 100 percent ok.my doctor said NO!! ,i ask for more time to heal they said no if you don't show up we will call it self resignment.aint it great...
i worked from june 30 2010 till july 7th 2010 whe i got laid off i went and filed for unemployment for my previous jobs...so later on in july i had recieved my first check..but then i decided to move 4hrs away to go to school in august. so like in september i recieved a notice stating that my unemployment was being revoked because they recieved word stating that i still worked for the company im like what the hell??? so its now november and im broke. today i just did my appeal and she's saying that some of the things i said she cant use that information...what the fuck?!!! like seriously lady i live 4 hrs away...i moved in august i got laid off in july...you really fuckin think that im going to drive 4 damn hrs to work at a fuckin SUBWAY????? first and foremost dont you work for government????? so why the hell you cant see that im not working that ive only recieved one paycheck stub from this company??? number 2 yall say that i owe 945 well if thats the case since you also say that i work for this company how about you collect the money from those checks!!! good luck on that one!!!! the government is so fuckin shitty and they are stealing from people...so sad..and im like shit you might as well of said that you was giving me a damn loan
It's true. I've been waiting weeks for unemployment benefits (I was let go about a month and a half ago) and still haven't received a dime. They have to 'review' the case? Ok, sure thing. 4 to 6 weeks? Ok, that probably means 2 to 3...yea, NO. If anything, they'll probably EXCEED those 6 weeks. It's funny...when you owe the government money, they come banging on your door, but when they owe you money, they take their good ol' time. I've been a good worker FOR YEARS, and this is the thanks I get. I'm not asking for $500 a week, I'm just asking for something! It could be $100 dollars a week, I don't care, just SOMETHING! I love the United States, but I H-A-T-E it's government. I'm surprised ANYTHING gets done around here...oh wait, no it doesn't!
I got screwed by Missouri unempolyment ,I had drawed unempolyment from 12/09 till 4/12/10 then went back to work till Dec 15 of 2010 .Filed for unemoplyment. I made to muck the first week so didnt get a check next week was a waitting week. then got 127.00 a week for two weeks then got a letter that I was overpaid 948.00 from 1/2/2010 till 4/2010 I should have been on reg unempolyment but some one put me on extened benefits at the Missouri unempolyment office. They said IT WAS THEIR MISTAKE BUT IT DIDNT MATTER I had to pay it back. Then after 3 times talking with them now I owe 1,068.00. They said they sent me a payment of 222.00 on the 12/25/2010 that I never got that I have to pay back. So now I owe 1290.00 and wont get a unempolyment check till it paid back at 127.00 a week .I have a part time job of 4 to 5 hr a week so take 20% off my 127.00 a week they said some where around 12 to 14 weeks before I will get a check. I told them it your falt and they said yes it is but that didnt matter I HAVE TO PAY IT BACK. I said what happens in the mean time when I lose my apartment and have to live on the street they said not their ploblem.If I didnt like it to appeal it but it will take 12 week or so before an appeal will go thru. If i get a job they will take up to 80% of my pay check to pay back whats not paid and hold my State income tax also. So lets see some one up at the unempolyment head quarters makes a mistake dosent catch for a yr and I have to pay it backSounds like BULL SHIT to me if I had commet froud and lied about what I made or done some thing like that then yes I sould have to pay it back BUT I DIDNT it was their mistake and they said I SHOULD HAVE CRECTED IT BEFORE NOW how the hell do I do that I dont write my own checks from them or do the paper work thats there job.
Welcome to the state of Michigan!!!! I just love my state.NOT!!! I had a phone hearing on october 8th 2008 to determine if I was eligible for unemployment. I won the hearing and received unemployment for about a yeah and a half. I know some of you say free loader, but Michigan has no jobs available that don't involve McDonalds. Well It has now been almost been two and a half years since that hearing. I have back to work for some time now,and guess what I just got in the mail two and a half years later? Come on guess...A letter stating that the original
judges decision has been reversed,and I now owe back $28,000.00. Yes that says twenty eight thousand dollars back. What do I do now. Bankruptcy you say? Checked into that and according to Michigan, certain debts have to be repaid in full no matter what, and unemployment is one of them. So now I have no other options but to bend over and take it in the ass for the next twenty or so years as they garnish my wages,add more penalty fees,take my tax returns,and leave me with what? Thats right.. A slave to the state of Michigan that tells me when to wipe my own ass. So to all the people out there that think they want to go on unemployment,think again. Odds are you will be signing your life away to your state. How they can give me that letter two and a half years later baffles my mind. Unemployment seekers beware and enjoy our great state of Michigan!!! Sincerely,
Michigan Unemployments greatest fan
Mike J.
Mike J. Your not alone and in fact it is more common than you think if you have oportunity get a lawer and contest this reversal you have a very limited time to do this so I advise imediate action!! they do take advatage of the fact that you are getting benifits but these are benifits that are rightfully deserved hence you pay unemployment fees out of your payroll, prior to being unemployed.. The only way this can change is if we as the citizens stand up to the state and fight back. ouch on the 28,000.. that is huge in fact you mak me think my $5,000 to pay back is small when it is not.. there needs to be somone a state rep that you can turn too for resolution with this matter I am planning to locate my self to Michigan and once I have citizenship in Michigan I am applying to get into politics and I suggest you take similar actions.. Maybe you wish to join my political party the Labor Party.. representing the working class americans that are being pushed out of jobs and taxed out of their homes and made to be wage slaves.. Alone you can achieve small things together we can achieve GREAT things! join the Labor Party the ticket I am planing on running on.. I invite you to join me.
thats funny, I THINK THE GOVERNMENT MADE THAT SAME MISTAKE WITH ME. HMMM......
Yea, unemployment sucks! I got fired for "just cause" about 6 weeks ago. I did what I am accused of - nothing to harm the business interests of my employer and I didn't know in advance that I would get fired over. There were no warnings, if they would have said DONT DO THIS BECAUSE IT IS SERIOUS AND YOU WILL GET FIRED OVER IT! I believe that I should have been given a least a warning before the termination. The offense wasn't as serious to warrent a termination before a warning.
I just recieved 2 letters from the state of indiana after alomist 6 months later of my claims stopping. I am told my stte tax returns belong to them now and that I was over paid 13,500.00 If I don't pay it soon they will prosecute me??? I am soo frickin confused. This is utter bs. I am still unemployed and have nothing to give them, much less do I even understand why I have to pay it all back.?.
Well fuck NJ! I have been working and paying into the system for 15 years. I have worked 1-2 jobs, have a masters and license in Social Work... I got laid off and have been looking for work the past 8 weeks... Unemployment now says that I owe them $4,000.00 How? It's my money!
thinking of going postal!
pissed off in NJ!
Same here, I owe $8500....and all I did was file my claims as usual...they screwed up and as a single dad with 2 kids I am struggling. I have been going to school the whole time I have been laid off and let me tell you after 18 years of work it has been tough doing this. The last thing I need is the unemployment office trying to screw me more.
From the NUMEROUS posts here it is obvious the unemployment systems in all states are NOT working to provide benefits to the people who deserve them.
Our experience with the WA State Unemployment Office has been a nightmare as well. We own our own const. co., which by the way you do not pay into unemployment in this state if you own your own company and so you are not entitled to collect from it either. So normally when work is slow we are on our own.
However, my husband took a job the last 3 years working for another company as their employee. He had a deal with them to work their company and ours when the work was there. He ended up working more in the other co. than our own the last two years, which qualified him to collect unemployment.
After filing and collecting from Nov 1 through about end of March, we get a letter. The other company was claiming he quit. Long story short--we went thru a hearing, which took months and no payments were issued during that time. We had to prove he didn't quit, which we did or pay back almost 6,ooo bucks. We provided all job search logs from Nov through April as well. They were approved. We won and 3 weeks later finally a check. They missed paying 1 week during that time. We are still fighting to clear it up.
Our problem is the constant harassment we are receiving from WA Unemployment. They seem to be targeting us for some reason. We are allowed to work in our business if the work is there, but have to report the amount earned. Fine. We did report it--the few days that were worked anyhow. We believe they don't like business owners on unemployment from the treatment we've received.
For those who think they are helping the businesses. No. Not so. They raised the rates on them and are screwing them too. They are all about themselves. Our theory is the state is completely broke so they harass people on unemployment to try and get them off it. With unemployment rates so high they want those numbers down to make it appear things are improving and more importantly so they have one less person to pay out to.
What's maddening is it isn't their frickin' money to begin with. The federal extensions are their money, but the feds also receive money from businesses nationwide annually to help cover this. We have paid into this for years and could never understand why we had to because we could not ever collect unemployment.
As for the harassment. We have been repeatedly asked for job logs. When we started they asked for 3 weeks worth. Then the hearing with the employer also covered all job logs Nov thru hearing date in March I think.
Then he was required to go in for a job source meeting May 3 to learn how to do a resume (which he had) & how to get a job. It turned out to be the one day he was called into to go to work for his own company--who is going to pass up work. Not him. No number is provided to cancel or reschedule the meeting. I called main number. They said wait for a letter, answer questions and return it. I waited. It came and was due back in 4 days. The next day I received a second letter stating he didn't answer the letter, which wasn't even due back yet, and was now required to attend a meeting and bring ALL his job logs (AGAIN--3rd time to be reviewed). He went & took all job logs.
The job logs were hand-written, but complete as per the form. NOT good enough. If you contact a person in person you still have to provide the person's phone number--not their address. They would not accept them. He came home and had two hours to complete 6 months of job logs. We did it and emailed them to her. She confirmed by email she received and accepted them. Thought all was good. No.
Next day he gets a call and she says she wants the reason why the job didn't pan out on each one. The form does NOT ask for this, but we did it anyhow. Sent it back in. She called later and complained. He told her to just send them in as is.
They ended up denying the week he missed the original work source meeting. Apparently going to work was not an acceptable reason for missing the appointment. Can you believe that B.S.! What a joke.
Last week...another letter comes asking for job search logs for a week in January. We sent them for the 4th time for review.
Husband went back to work June 6th and was scheduled for another work source meeting on June 13th. He was working so he missed it. They sent out more paperwork wanting to know why he missed this appointment and threatening to deny unemployment for that week. HA! He hadn't even filed to claim in over 2 weeks! Sent it back and told them he was back to work and had not claimed for that week.
Today....they have now moved to phone calls to him on his cell number. He is in a dump truck and can't drive and talk, but listened to the messages, which are asking for MORE FRICKIN' paperwork regarding the same weeks.
The WA State Unemployment office is harassing people. It is plain to see and we are fed up. My husband is a very hard working person. He has only filed for unemployment once--way back in the late 1980's or so and that was only for a about a month. He worked 2 jobs the last 3 years and has ran a successful small business since 1999.
Now this office is asking for paperwork they have received at least 4 times. They are asking for paperwork about the meeting he had with them. HELLO! Don't THEY have the paperwork regarding the meeting in THEIR FILES. You bet they do. THEY need to get off their own lazy asses and go look it up and quit harassing us.
Thank God he is back to work. We will never bother filing unemployment again. It isn't worth the headache at all, which I am sure is what they were hoping for all along anyhow.
Washington State is broke. They are looking for anyway possible to squeeze its citizens so they don't have to pay out. We are currently looking forward to a Dept. of Revenue audit of our company books in July. Just MORE waste of my time digging out paperwork. My books are completely in order and above board---no worries, but I really don't need the hassle right now (my Dad was diagnosed with cancer & undergoing chemo--doesn't look good). So sad to have to waste my time with the auditor instead of fishing with my dad.
My Accountant said they have seen a huge rise in the number of state audits this year. One accountant has 40 on his books and mine said he has over 25 clients---whereas the norm is around a dozen or so a year for them.
It's time to tighten the belts....not mine. The govt. needs to reign in their spending and quit coming back to the citizens to bleed them dry.
I really feel for all those who have posted here. We are fortunate enough to not have many bills at this stage in our lives so it hasn't hurt us there, but I couldn't imagine what it would have been like had we had a monthly house payment/rent, etc.
Hang in there...and God Bless you all. THANK YOU FOR THIS POST. People need to know what is happening and perhaps it is time to really start bitching at the right people to stop this crap.
I would like to start a national movment on this issue with all voters and want to bring this tolight in the next vote for our goverment officials since goverment employees think it is their job to harrase and make it difficult for those americans that deserve to collect the unemployment that they have been forced to pay and now need. I want this to be an issue for both republicans and democrats to address and to get a resolution because some place some where there is some one responsible for this treatment of citizens, and we have the power to vote but this does us no good when the people that are causing us grief instead of helping us are payed gov emploees them selves. the gov is suposed to work for us not against us. please feel free to write me here on hub pages and I would like to take up for both sides the employees anbd emploers that are facing challenges that would not be there if not for our screwed up gov.
File for Bankruptcy people! They're saying I owe them $10,000 - so guess what? I'm not going to owe these criminals JACK. They don't let anyone know about the 10 days to file an appeal - they think they're slick. No wonder people rip them off and don't feel bad. Bunch of jerks! Oh, by the way? It's not the people at the unemployment commission you should be angry at... they're just following the "LAW". It's the people making the "LAW" you should be upset about! Either our state reps need to make some changes to the way they do things, or we vote them out and get people who will do something about this corrupt system.
does anyone know what happens if you owe unemployment
and you loose your job
Unemployment makes a mistake and Im left to pay. I have an eviction notice now. What are we going to do about this! We have to stand up and fight! I am going to start writing my congressman!
PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION TO SEND TO FLORIDA GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT!!!!!
I attempted to call "MARVIN" to certify for the first time this morning and after I was done it said that the payment didn't go through and that I had to call a different number. I have been calling the number for almost 2 hours and I keep getting messages that either say all of the circuits are busy or all of the representatives are busy. Maybe they should hire some of the unemployed people to staff the phones...so frustrating!
yes unemployment SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my husband owns them like $ 3000 nad with all the pelnaties and everything it turn out to be $10000 can you believe this shit ///////////// this is not right but what can you do just pa them back if you dont they will get right ??????
Wow, so it seems the unemployment office gives people the run around everywhere and for years now! I've been trying to get it or a job since October! No luck! Denied, denied, denied, hearing (they said I never called in LIE) hearing, ...now waiting. The company I worked for lied, my manager lied under oath even. I just keep hoping karma will prevail!!!
Plain and simple, NJ Unemployment system Suck!
I am not collecting unemployment and I have never collected it, with that said... in today's economy it could happen to any of us at anytime. After having read all these comments I have to say that what I am seeing here is already been played out in the Social Security System. Our sweet Federal Government stole that money, oh excuse me, borrowed (although my Mother always taught me if you supposedly borrowed something without asking first it was the same as stealing). The republicans want to call SS and Medicare an entitlement and list it right next to welfare and food stamps. DO NOT LIST MY SS AND MEDICARE UP THERE WITH WELFARE AND FOOD STAMPS! But yes it is an entitlement, I AM ENTITLED TO IT BECAUSE IT IS MY DAMN MONEY! Not to mention the places I have worked has had to match every dime I paid into it. Just like unemployment, we pay into it and then they want to keep it and act as though we are lazy because we want our money that they have been taking out of our paychecks, that by the way we did not ask them to start these programs in the first place...but they were looking out for the people. (HA) If they had just left our money in our paychecks we could have saved for our own retirement and have had money for our own crisis. But they thought they could take better care of us than we could. I would not doubt but what the unemployment monies paid in has went the same way as the SS. They most likely have borrowed it to and that is why every claim is a fight to the finish, because they do not have the money. Now that I am 52 years old they either want to abolish SS or extend retirement age, either way I'll never get my money back. I personally do not want to work until I am either too old or too sick to enjoy my retirement. I am sorry but most of us are not making 6 figure incomes and while we have large corporations out there taking money out of our pockets and being able to blatantly rip off consumers what little is left we do not have enough to set aside for all this and what we did have the government has saw fit to withdraw from our paychecks for our own good...just to steal it or give it to those who have never worked or worked so little they should not be drawing off my SS, but when someone who has worked and really needs it, they cannot draw it. I do not want to give the wrong impression I am not a democrat either, if they had their way they would continue to keep taking our money from our checks and then rather than give it back to us they will just give us welfare and food stamps and keep us poor. Obama and his crazy ass healthcare plan, what the hell has that done? It will up the cost of healthcare which will up the cost of insurance not that the insurance companies need a reason to up their costs. The insurance companies is exactly who needs to have something done with them. And none of this cross the state lines bullshit, they say that it will cause more competition, I don't know about you but I have lost count on how many insurance companies we have in Indiana, and surprisingly enough I work in a hospital where when we are trying to get authorization from some of our patients insurance companies we are actually speaking to someone out of state. (WTF)! I'm not saying I understand all that but...WTF! Bottom line is, whether it be republican or democrat or for that matter if what we have now as independents is all we have to choose from...then I think we can look forward to more tent cities showing up, more of our paychecks disappearing longer lines at soup kitchens,homeless shelters,food stamp lines, welfare lines etc. I also believe that what we are missing here is A) unification B) the realization that not everything is convenient, that we need to stand together and start to rebel against what our government has become. Everyone is studying who to vote for...I say all Americans on election day should show up at the voting polls and...NOT VOTE! But we should stand together outside the polls and say we are done, we are taking our country back! We are taking our money back and we are no longer financing big corporations to get rich using our money to do it, all while we grow in poverty. Let us have our own money to make our way in this capitalistic nation. This is no longer a Capitalistic country because the government is taking from the middle class and the poor to give to the wealthy corporations, the illegals, and yes those who truly are lazy and ripping off the system. I often wonder why I get up and go to work in the mornings as well, what with the government, large corporations, just taking every dime I earn, when I realize I do it for my self worth and because I am thankful to have a job. Although I agree with what was said about most of these work places becoming more like sweat shops, and they are getting away with it. Well I have to stop now or I could go on and on, but there are answers we just all have to fight back TOGETHER, remember there is strength in numbers. Overload those unemployment offices, start a wall street out in front of the capitol buildings in your state protesting the unemployment offices. I saw more than 1 comment on Michigan, on Washington, NJ use that and get together look up more in your states who are disgruntled and make a lot of loud noise! Sure you will see yourself on TV and most likely some will not have positive reviews, but that is partially how they hold us back, the other way is by how we act when we protest, Wallstreet protesters screwed up by allowing criminal activity to go on, do not live down there show up everyday and alternate people so that you can continue to look for work at the same time, stop some of the negativity before it starts, example: they want to collect unemployment but they can live down at our capitol protesting instead of looking for work, if you are all alternating and not living down there you just took that point away from them do not give them ammunition to stop you. I do so wish you all the best of luck with whatever you decide to do, but mostly I pray that God be with you! I thought we lived in America, a just and fair Nation? I think we might be wrong.
Interesting information. I'm just now starting the process, so I'm curious to see if and how I get screwed, as well.
Well I got denied for unemployment after one of my employers said I failed to return to work. I was still under doctors care for a work related injury and still had further testing to be done. I kept my employer abreast of all my doctoring. When I spoke to him Feb.14,2011 he never mentioned that my medical leave ended Jan 31,2011. All he said was keep me posted and I did. The unemployment office had all the medical document that my specialist filled out stating that I was not to return to my original job but released me to a previous job. This has been the biggest nightmare and it has destroyed MY life and everybody around is suffering. I had to give up my car and my bills still keep on coming, just a big mess. My employers pay into unemployment already. My plan was not to live on unemployment, I just needed a little help. I made more money when I was 15 years old than I did last year. Damn them all!
I am in NJ, was unemployed, was eligible for benefits, received them, and did not work the whole time. Now I get a letter saying they want me to pay it all back (4 tiers). This is a scam by the gov. because if a guy is legitimately unemployed, receives the standard tiers for that state, then how the hell do they turn around , and say..."ooops sorry, we used the wrong soc. number, and now we want all the money back." Oh, so based on something as stupid, as a soc. number, you are going to screw me, a nurse who was legitimately seperated from employment. It's a gov. scam.
Who do you talk to from a legal perspective? Who can we write and how can we get someone to moderate on our behalf. If this something that is taking place nationwhide then it should be made public and every News Paper, Congressman, Senator, Mayor, etc. should know. What can we do?
My wife filed for unemployment because her work put her on a leave because they could not give her light duty work and she had a dr. report saying she needed light duty faxed to the work to prove it. Well she got her unemployment and has had it for 17 weeks and now they finally decide to say why are you getting it again? She tells them the same thing and then calls back and says that she never told the hr that she needed light duty and my wife gets confused under stress said she dont remember what she told them but i know she did. Anyway we get the letter saying we owe all 17 weeks back which is 4,000 because she does not deserve unemployment for voluntary loa which it wasn't! Luckily they are not seeking jail time but im disabled and my wife is unemployed we can't pay that so they said you have 2 years before they can put liens on property and interest inures! Ok so that's ok we will pay on it cause we don't know what else to do then my wife talks to the people to make the payments too and they say interest starts next month. Im wondering if we should appeal and argue that she made a mistake and she told them in person she could not work unless light duty.
They want me to pay back over 20k because of their mistake.
However, I believe they are scamming people by tagging them with another persons data, lame excuse.
They say i owe 3500 , After I listened and trusted their workers! i followed their advice when they told me i didn't have to file for paid and unpaid training,...so i did just that next thing u know Im charged with over payment.I just lost my JOB today!! and while i filed i was approve so far for $66 a week!!!! and when i get my benefits the will garnish them until its all paid off..and that can take up to 5yrs in that little amount smh!! I HATE OUR GOVERNMENT!! I'm paying for their Mistake. Life is hard But GOD IS YET STILL A WAY MAKER!
I was on unemployment for a wile only living off 170 a week. finally i got a job at a temp lobber place. but they only needed me for two weeks. So then after that i asked to be back on. I then was on unemployment again thinking everything was fine because they accepted me back. knowing about my last job experience. But it wasn't in tell i got another job 8 months later to shut it off to then tell me i wasn't accepted. I hate my life. I have suicidal thoughts. Thank you government
On Thanksgiving I went in for emergency surgery. My manager refused to take me off the schedule even though I was in the hospital and was harassing me to work. I worked for the company for 6 years, never called off and never written up. Two weeks later when I was released I went back to work and they hired someone else and cut me down to 2 days a week for 2 weeks then on December 26th I was let go. I filed for unemployment after almost 2 months I got a letter saying I was awarded Unemployment because there was no evidence that I did anything that was detrimental to my employer or whatever. Terrific! It's not anywhere what I was making before but hey it's something. Yesterday I get a letter that my ex-manager is appealing my unemployment and made up all this COMPLETE bull as to why I was fired. How is this possible?!?! I only had a handful of days to appeal if I was denied. How the hell months later they can appeal?!?? And it's not like I haven't been trying to get a job. The state of Pennsylvania requires you to put in 3 applications a week to keep your unemployment which I've been doing. But it's kind of hard to get a job when the company you're trying to work for calls your former employer and they say horrible lies about you!
This happened to us also. I was so shocked. We had to take out a loan to pay it back! It would have better to never have received the money. Funny they can demand immediate repayment for their errors but if we find an error they made it can take weeks if not months.
I have been fighting with these incompetent assholes for 3 years, about money they owe me and they say I owe them money. they have a court order to pay me and they are still billing me today I got a final notice. and all I can think is that it has been 4 months and still haven't pay me I did finally get through their stupid 500-1700 number and they said they are going to finally pay me the money they owe me and still haven't seen a dime. Of course I probably not see it for another flipping 3 years these idiots that they hire at the unenjoyment office need to be fired and hire some one with at least a have a brain instead of these idiots that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground
we need to start the movement of americans against the unemployment office I hate them with a passion recall all of unemployment
To deskjockywriter,
The same has happened to me. I was paid my unemployment then I was told I was over paid and have to pay back the money. This is the biggest crock. I worked in La. and I live in Tx. Why do we have to pay for someone else's mistake. They are the ones that put the figures in and calculate what we will get a week. We have no control over this. The person they should make pay back the money is the person that did the imput and calculation of the money. It is there fault not mine. It is like a waitress if she messes up and charges someone wrong they take it out of her check. The same thing should be done with your unemployment.
If you have a class action suit going please contact me. I will be very glad to file with you.
My email elainedilley@ymail.com is not working right you can use dgeorgedd1@yahoo.com.
Please contact me.
Elaine
My employer paid me as an LLC 5% holder only a member. I never received any money all yr and had to file MTA tax and taxes quarterly. It cost me more to be an llc. So I asked to be terminated. One I never signed anything back in 2007 to join. I signed a paper in 2011, however he told me it was chaging status to w2. Now I received w2 wages paid all federal, state and Unemployment nys. Now I've been laid off. Collected three months unemployement and now they sent me a letter that they stopped my unemployemnt and have to pay it back. Why?? I'm no longer an LLC member. I paid by w2 and I have to get an attorney and go to court. Not understanding family of five and no income!
Anyone who is on unemployment like myself and when they mess up they wont addmit to, but they will say am sorry and a foot in the ass lol...Right now am talking to attorney about what they did to me and how long they put me through B.S., but you know what am going to fight for my right and am not letting them get away with that. If anyone going through any B.S. GET AN ATTORNEY AND HAVE THEM FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHT!!!!..
I had a part-time already, when I lost my full-time job. So Unemployment knew that I had two jobs. I ended up collecting for about 22 months of Unemployment. Long story short, I earned about $4,000 from my part-time work in that time span. Now with the letters I am receiving, penalties, over payment and such, they say I owe over $52,000. I guess they are claiming fraud.
At one point, while collecting Unemployment, I took a job for less than a week and got a $70 check for two weeks. I stated on MARVIN that I did in fact start a new job; even though it was very part-time. For that, I stopped getting my Unemployment checks. So at that point, I was very careful with what I stated on the automated system. And, for that reason, I simply skipped claiming a few weeks and thought that would just make everything balance out.
I admit that I didn't follow the proper procedure. I'm not going to sit here and play stupid. BUT, I made about $4,000 for 22 months. How can they justify asking me for $52,000? Heck, I only made $4,000.
I lived in Minnesota, worked 2.5 years for a healthcare company, was treated like sh** by my two clients, one tried to run me over with her electric wheel chair, and she tried to bite me twice in 8 months time, the company promised me raises, never saw one, I was doing the training for all new PCA's, and got sick of the run around and mistreatment by the clients. I was going to give two weeks notice, and was told I was done effective immediately, I applied for UI, and my employer did not respond to the states request for denial or approval, so I had to copy all my check stubs, and send them to the state, I was approved for UI, I received UI for two years while looking for work, in the mean time, I discovered that my employer was giving me a bad reference when I applied to PCA jobs. They decided all of a sudden to appeal my UI, I lost my appeal, and now the state of MN wants $17,000.00 in full. I still have not been able to find full time, long term employment, even with the help of a work rehab vendor hired by my workers comp from another job that I was injured on the job at. I moved from MN to WI and still no work. I continue to look for work, and I want to file for bankruptcy, but I am not sure if I can against the debt.
I signed up for unemployment, because it was the only way I could get food stamps. I never collected any money and now they wont stop sending me a collection letter. The goverment wants me to pay back money I never recieved. Its one big scam to screw over the american people.
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clyde j bloomfield 3 years ago
how does a person even get unemployment started without communication with the unemployment office in tiffin, ohio I filed a calim 11/3/08 and haven't gotten a thing except a couple of papers to fill out in the mail to send back to unemplyment, all it shows online in my benefit claim is pending,and it would take and attorney to understand all the different things involved online they ask, I need money to live on it could be in limbo for months with these people because they know they work for the government and can do anything they want, I just woder how many people get screwed out of their benefits and just give up with all the hassel they put a peron through?????? anyone else had this problem if so shoot me and e-mail and share hoe to get the money i worked 44 yrs for?????at fun4all@inbox.com